A PODCAST TO EXPOSE, NAME, AND PROCESS THE SPIRITUAL ABUSE AND MANIPULATION WE’VE CARRIED FOR TOO LONG

"God loves you and I have a plan for your life."

—Shit my pastor said

They said it with a smile to appear playful.

They would call us family, so we would bind ourselves tighter, while their power sat firmly in the center.

They cried at the end of a long day, “We are the luckiest people in the world to have this job!” as we trudged back into another twelve-hour shift.

Shit My Pastor Said is a space to expose, name, and process the spiritual abuse and manipulation we’ve carried for too long. This isn’t just about venting, it’s about reclaiming.

Together we’ll:

  • Laugh at the absurdity of what was said to us.

  • Cry at the weight of what we endured.

  • Inspire one another as we move toward healing.

Because sometimes the best way to start mending wounds is by naming them out loud.

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RESOURCES

THERAPISTS

RESOURCES ⛛ THERAPISTS ⛛

Therapists

Trauma can leave us unsure which way is up. This is why it’s helpful to have tools and some safe, highly trained professionals in our corner.

Here are some therapists that I have used myself or come highly recommended:

Reclamation Collective

www.reclamationcollective.com

Reclamation Collective is committed to holding space for folks navigating Religious Trauma and Adverse Religious Experiences. They hope to support you as you reclaim or claim for the very first time, your identity, pleasure, and autonomy.

Open Path Psychotherapy Collective

openpathcollective.org

Open Path Psychotherapy Collective is a nonprofit nationwide network of mental health professionals dedicated to providing in-office and online mental health care—at a steeply reduced rate—to clients in need.

MN Couple Therapy Center

mncoupletherapy.com

A great resource for individuals and couples to meet in person locally or online. 

resources

Church Clarity
FIND AN INCLUSIVE CHURCH

Church Clarity is a crowd-sourced database of local congregations that are scored based on how clearly they communicate their actively enforced policies. Our mission is to increase the standard of clarity throughout the Church Industry.
Ambiguity is Harmful. Clarity is Reasonable.
churchclarity.org

So, You’re Deconstructing…

Deconstructing your faith? Here’s a great resource that has videos, articles, podcasts, and books that can add value to your journey. 
soyouredeconstructing.com

If God Still Breathes, Why Can’t I?

Angela N. Parker
A challenge to the doctrine of biblical inerrancy that calls into question how Christians are taught more about the way of Whiteness than the way of Jesus.

A Letter To My Congregation

Ken Wilson
An Evangelical Pastor’s Path to Embracing People Who Are Gay, Lesbian, and Transgender into the Company of Jesus

The Cross and the Lynching Tree

James Cone 
Two symbols that are closely related and have shaped the lived experiences of generations of people. Must read for those interested in liberation theology. 

Queer Virtue

Elizabeth Edman
As an openly lesbian Episcopal priest and professional advocate for LGBTQ justice, the Reverend Elizabeth Edman has spent her career grappling with the core tenets of her faith. After deep reflection on her tradition, Edman is struck by the realization that her queer identity has taught her more about how to be a good Christian than the church.


God Can’t

Thomas Jay Oord
Processes the historical problem of evil. “How can there be a God who is all loving, all knowing and all powerful and people still die of hunger?” Questions like this are centered in Dr. Oords work.